Suzuki Forenza Complaints (2008)

152 consumer complaints on file.

#10525982July 21, 2013
POWER TRAIN, VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL, ENGINE
I NOTICED MY CAR HAVING DIFFICULTY ACCELERATING AND IT WOULD OCCASIONALLY FEEL THE ENGINE JUMP WHILE DRIVING. THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WAS ON. I WAS GOING DOWN THE INTERSTATE WHEN THE ENGINE SHUT ITSELF OFF. LUCKILY IT TURNED ITSELF BACK ON AND I WAS ABLE TO SAFELY ACCELERATE TO SPEED. THE SHOP SAID THAT IT WAS THE TRANSMISSION RANGE SENSOR AND THE TRANSMISSION CONTROL SENSOR. A YEAR AGO THE CAR WAS DISPLAYING FUNNY SYMBOLS AND WOULD NOT START OCCASIONALLY. AGAIN THE SAME SENSORS HAD TO BE REPLACED. A THIRD TIME THE CAR CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AND THE CAR WAS AGAIN HAVING DIFFICULTY ACCELERATING. THE ACCELERATION ISSUE AND THE LIGHT ARE INTERMITTENT, IT HAS NOW AGAIN BEGUN DOING THE ENGINE "JUMP" IT IS SCARY BEING AT A LIGHT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO MOVE. IT IS VERY SCARY STOPPING TO TURN LEFT INTO MY APARTMENT COMPLEX AND NOT KNOWING IF MY CAR WILL RESPOND WHEN I HAVE A GAP IN TRAFFIC TO TURN. TOOK IT TO A SHOP TODAY TO FIND OUT THAT THE CODES FROM THE ENGINE CHECK LIGHT ARE AGAIN THE TRANSMISSION RANGE SENSOR AND THE TRANSMISSION CONTROL SENSOR. THE CAR HAS UNDER 65K AND I HAVE HAD THESE ISSUES THREE TIMES. I AM THANKFUL THAT IT HAS NOT CAUSED A MAJOR ACCIDENT. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10525491July 17, 2013
POWER TRAIN, VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL, UNKNOWN OR OTHER
THE CAR WILL NOT SHIFT CORRECTLY. DISPLAYS A SCRAMBLED MESSAGE ON THE DASH INFORMATION CONSOLE. DANGEROUS ALMOST CAUSED ME TO BE STRUCK AND KILLED BY A 18 WHEELER. SOMETHING MUST BE DONE BY THIS. IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10524302July 11, 2013
POWER TRAIN, ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
WHEN SHIFTING FROM PARK TO REVERSE, THE TRANSMISSION THUMPS AND THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT COMES ON. CAR WILL ONLY DRIVE SLUGGISHLY. GOES AWAY EVENTUALLY, BUT HAS HAPPENED 3 TIMES. LOOKING ON INTERNET, IT APPEARS TO BE TRANSMISSION RANGE SENSOR. ALSO, THE BRAKE SHIFT INTERLOCK FAILED, AND COULD NOT GET THE CAR OUT OF PARK. USED THE OVER-RIDE HOLE TO GET CAR OUT OF PARK. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10522063June 27, 2013
AIR BAGS, ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, EXTERIOR LIGHTING
PLEASE HELP! MY 2008 SUZUKI FORENZA : IS GIVING SO MUCH PROBLEMS,I TOLD THE DEALERSHIP AND THEY SAID NOTHING IS WRONG. WITH THE CAR,BUT THE LIGHT STAY ON ALL THE TIME ,AND I DON'T FEEL SAFE,CAN YOU HELP ME?THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10522160June 27, 2013
POWER TRAIN, ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
FOR A FEW WEEKS THE CAR HAD BEEN RUNNING A BIT OFF--NOT REALLY CHANGING GEARS RIGHT-BUT NOTHING TO RAISE SERIOUS ALARM-CLUNKED ONE TIME A WEEK AGO WHEN SLOWING DOWN. YESTERDAY THE ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON THE CAR MADE A LOUD CLUNK AND WOULD NOT SWITCH INTO GEAR. AFTER TURNING THE CAR OFF AND ON THE ENGINE LIGHT WENT OF AND THE CAR WAS ABLE TO BE DRIVE. TOOK IT INTO THE LOCAL AUTO PARTS STORE--THEY RAN A TROUBLE CODE WHICH CAME BACK PO700 AND PO705. WE LOOKED THIS UP AND IT REFERRED TO THE TRANSMISSION RANGE SENSOR---THE AUTO PART FELLOW SAID GET IT IN NOW TO BE FIXED. $200 LATER THE CAR IS NOW RUNNING ACCEPTABLE AGAIN. THE CAR MECHANIC WAS ABLE TO GET THE PART IN A COUPLE HOURS BECAUSE THE WAREHOUSE SAID THIS PART HAS AN EXTREMELY HIGH DEMAND FOR IT SO THEY STOCK IT. WE HAD A LONG DISTANCE TRIP PLANNED NEXT WEEK AND THIS COULD HAVE BEEN DISASTROUS TO HAVE COMPLETELY LOST THE ABILITY TO DRIVE OR SOMETHING ELSE. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10519572June 12, 2013
POWER TRAIN, VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
OWNER STATES THAT THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT COMES ON AND LOSES POWER..CAR WILL GO FROM DRIVE TO A DIFFERENT GEAR. THIS HAPPENED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS (WHEN AT RED LIGHTS..GOING UPHILL ( WHICH IS DANGEROUS IF THERE IS A VEHICLE BEHIND YOU) AND REGULAR DRIVING. TOOK VEHICLE TO TRANSMISSION SHOP 6 TIMES AND AFTER SPENDING OVER 750.00 ON RANGE SENSOR AND COMPUTER BOARD PROBLEMS...STILL HAVING THE SAME ISSUES WITH CHECK ENGINE LIGHT..LOSS OF POWER AND GEAR SLIPS. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10519406June 12, 2013
SEAT BELTS, AIR BAGS
I PURCHASED THIS CAR USED FROM CARMAX IN OCTOBER. SINCE THEN IT HAS BEEN IN THE SHOP 3 TIMES FOR AIRBAG LIGHTS. THE AIRBAG LIGHT HAS NOW BEEN ON FOR 2 MONTHS AND I HAVE NOT HAD TIME DO GET IT FIXED. THE AIRBAG LIGHT HAS BEEN ON SINCE I PURCHASED IT, THE SEATBELT LIGHT ALSO COMES ON FREQUENTLY. THIS CONCERNS ME BECAUSE THE CARS SAFETY IS SO POOR- WITH AIRBAG SYSTEM BEING DEACTIVATED AND SEATBELTS BEING OUT OF WHACK, THIS CAR IS A DEATH TRAP! I WENT TO CARMAX TO SEE IF THEY COULD HELP ME AND THE MANAGER WOULDN'T EVEN TAKE MY NAME. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10508780April 19, 2013
POWER TRAIN
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SUZUKI FORENZA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE CHECK ENGINE WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED AND THE VEHICLE STARTED TO HESITATE AS IF IT WERE ATTEMPTING TO STALL. THE CONTACT TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER AND WAS TOLD THAT THE TRANSMISSION RANGE SWITCH NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE CONTACT HAD THE DEALER REPLACE THE TRANSMISSION RANGE SWITCH FOUR TIMES, BUT THE FAILURE CONTINUED TO RECUR. THE CONTACT STATED THAT AFTER THE SECOND REPAIR, THE MANUFACTURER ASSISTED WITH 100 PERCENT OF THE REPAIR COSTS. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 49,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 73,000. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10508295April 15, 2013
POWER TRAIN
SEEMS TO BE A COMMON PROBLEM WITH THIS VEHICLE AND OTHER SIMILAR MODELS GOING BACK 4 YEARS. CAR HIT 80000 MILES AND THE TRANS RANGE SENSOR WENT OUT. CAR GOES INTO "LIMP MODE" BECAUSE THE COMPUTER THINKS THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT, WHEN THE REALITY IS A BAD SENSOR NOT AN ACTUAL MECHANICAL PROBLEM. THAT AND THE PROBLEM IS INTERMITTENT. SOMETIMES OCCURS JUST AS CAR IS STARTED AND PUT IN GEAR, AND SOMETIMES NOT AT ALL. (CHECK ENGINE LIGHT GOES OFF AND ON WITH EACH INCIDENT OR NEW STARTING OF THE VEHICLE.) THE SAFETY ISSUE IS THAT BECAUSE IT IS IN LIMP MODE, YOU CANNOT ACCELERATE QUICKLY AND THE CAR MAY EVEN ROLL BACKWARDS ON HILLS IF YOU HAVE TO STOP, AS HAPPENED TO ME THIS MORNING WHILE TAKING SON TO SCHOOL, HAD TO HOLD THE BRAKE AND REV THE (AUTOMATIC!) ENGINE UNTIL I FELT IT PULLING TO MAKE IT UP THE HILL. CAN SOMETIME STOP AND TURN THE CAR OFF, THEN BACK ON AND ISSUE GOES AWAY. HAVING A HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT AFTER 7 YEARS OF COMPLAINTS A RECALL HASN'T ALREADY BEEN ISSUED SINCE THIS IS AN OBVIOUS BLATANT DEFECT. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10505827April 10, 2013
POWER TRAIN, ENGINE
I BOUGHT MY CAR 3-29-09. AT 4,000 MI. I BEGAN HAVING PROBLEMS. AT 57,059 MI. 4-9-13 WAS THE 18TH TIME MY CAR HAS BEEN IN FOR SVC. I'M ON MY 3RD DEALER (ORIG. OUT OF SVC.) I AM HAVING MY 3RD TRANS INSTALLED.CAN SOMEONE SAY "LEMON LAW ?" 1ST THEY COULD NOT FIND THE PROBLEM AS NO CODES WERE SHOWN BY THE COMPUTER. MY CAR AT ONE POINT WAS AT THE DEALER FOR 34 DAYS STRAIGHT! AT TIMES IT WOULD NOT EVEN GO INTO GEAR OR WOULD JUST DIE. I HAVE HAD THE TCM,ECM,& TRANS RANGE SWITCH REPLACED MULTIPLE TIMES.SINCE OCT 2012 HAVE GETTING AN INTERMITTENT CK ENG LIGHT, I WAS FINALLY ABLE TO BRING IT IN ON 3-29-13 & THE ECM WAS REPLACED. ON 4-8-13 I WAS BARELY ABLE TO MAKE IT IN TO THE SHOP AS MY CAR WAS STUCK IN 3RD GEAR AND I WAS ON THE HWY THE CK ENG, LIGHT WAS ON. IT WAS THE TRANS RANGE SWITCH AGAIN! IT WAS JUST REPLACED OCT 2012. MON. EVE. THE CAR WOULD STALL IN NEUTRAL WHEN IN DRIVE, SLAM INTO GEAR, THE CK ENG LIGHT REMAINED LIT, IT WAS STUCK IN 3RD GEAR AND THE NEWEST DEVELOPMENT WAS THAT AS I WAS DRIVING ON THE HWY, THE LIT D (DRIVE) BY THE ODOMETER WAS FLASHING NORMAL & THEN WITH A LINE THROUGH IT. I GOT TO THE DEALER, PULLED THE CODE & THE TRANS NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AGAIN! I HAVE ABSOLUTELY HAD IT WITH THIS CAR AND AM ATTEMPTING TO RE-INSTATE MY ARBI- TRATION WITH THEM (I DROPPED IT WHEN THE SUPPOSEDLY FIXED THE PROB.LAST YR). 14 OF VISITS WERE MAJOR. SUZUKI'S TECH EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THERE IS AN ENGINEERING DESIGN FLAW. MY CAR IS DANGEROUS AND I NO LONGER WANT MY LIFE IN SUZUKI'S HANDS. I CANNOT CONTINUE TO DRIVE A CARE THAT CAN BECOME FAULTY AT ANY TIME, ESPECIALLY WHEN I AM DRIVING 55-65 MPH ON THE HWY AND THE CAR GETS STUCK IN THIRD GEAR! MY HUSBAND HAS ALSO HAD THE ENGINE DIE ON HIM WHILE DRIVING.(I TOOK A SHORT VIDEO WITH MY PHONE THAT SHOWS THE CK ENG LIGHT ON AND THE D FLASHING WITH A LINE THROUGH IT.EVERY TIME THAT THE CK ENG LIGHT COMES ON LATELY, IT'S A NEW CODE. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10502689March 13, 2013
POWER TRAIN, POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SUZUKI FORENZA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE ATTEMPTING TO ACCELERATE FROM A COMPLETE STOP, THE VEHICLE EXHIBITED A DELAYED RESPONSE. ON A SEPARATE OCCASION THE GEAR LEVER WAS SHIFTED INTO DRIVE AND THE TRANSMISSION INDEPENDENTLY SHIFTED INTO REVERSE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A TRANSMISSION CENTER WHERE THE TRANSMISSION RANGE SENSOR WAS REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE PROBLEM. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 47,000. UPDATED 04/30/13*LJ
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10502012March 7, 2013
ENGINE
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SUZUKI FORENZA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING 55 MPH, THE VEHICLE STALLED AND THE CHECK ENGINE WARNING LIGHT WAS ILLUMINATED. THE CONTACT DID NOT TAKE THE VEHICLE TO A DEALER OR A MECHANIC FOR INSPECTION OR REPAIRS. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 47,980.
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10501823March 6, 2013
POWER TRAIN
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SUZUKI FORENZA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE AT A COMPLETE STOP, THE VEHICLE ERRONEOUSLY SLIPPED OUT OF GEAR AND JOLTED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER FOR THE FAILURE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. THE DEALER UPDATED THE COMPUTER BUT THE FAILURE CONTINUED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 7 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 60,000. THE VIN WAS UNKNOWN. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10498496February 18, 2013
POWER TRAIN
ABOUT ONCE A WEEK MY CAR HAS AN ISSUE WHEN SHIFTING. WHEN I SHIFT INTO REVERSE I GET A CLUNK. THEN WHEN I DRIVE THE CAR SEEMS TO BE STUCK IN A HIGH GEAR. THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WILL GO ON. IF I TURN THE CAR OFF AND LEAVE IT OFF FOR 5 TO 10 MINUTES IT WILL BE FINE WHEN I START IT AGAIN. THE ENGINE LIGHT CODES ARE P0700 AND P0705. UPON DOING RESEARCH ON THIS SUBJECT I FOUND THAT THIS IS THE TRANSMISSION RANGE SENSOR THAT IS FAILING. SUZUKI WILL NOT FIX THIS UNDER THE POWER TRAIN WARRANTY WHICH SEEMS VERY WRONG SINCE THIS IS PART OF THE TRANSMISSION. I HAVE FOUND A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITH THE SAME PROBLEM. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A DEFECTIVE PART THAT SUZUKI IS DOING NOTHING ABOUT. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10496628February 6, 2013
POWER TRAIN, ENGINE, VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
MY TRANSMISSION RANGE SENSOR HAS BEEN REPLACED TWICE, BOTH WITHIN A 12 MONTHS TIME FRAME. BOTH TIMES MY CAR JERKS AT LOW AND HIGH SPEEDS AND MY ENGINE LIGHT IS INVOKED. THE SECOND TIME THE DEALERSHIP REPLACED MY TRANSMISSION RANGE SENSOR...THE VERY SAME WEEK MY VEHICLE IS STILL EXPERIENCING THE SAME EXACT ISSUES, INCLUSIVE OF MY ENGINE LIGHT COMING ON AND STAYING ON FOR 3 DAYS. UPON RETURN, THE DEALERSHIP SAYS MY JERKING, HARD GEAR SHIFTING AND ON BOARD ENGINE LIGHT IS BEING CAUSED DUE TO AN ENGINE SKIPPING ISSUE, WHICH IS "POSSIBLY" DUE TO THE ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULE NOT COMMUNICATING WITH THE TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE. I'LL HAVE TO PAY THE DEALERSHIP $210 TO SEE IF THE CONNECTOR BETWEEN THE ECM AND THE TCM IS BAD, AND IF ITS NOT BAD, I STILL PAY THE $210, BUT THEN THEY'LL TELL ME WHAT THE NEXT POSSIBLE STEP WOULD BE?? I FEEL I'M IN A NO WIN SITUATION, IT SOUNDS LIKE, JUST KEEP WRITING CHECKS. MY ISSUE SOUNDS THE SAME AS THE COUNTLESS OTHERS THAT HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED, MY ISSUE SHOULD BE COVERED SINCE SUZUKI IS MORE THAN AWARE THAT THESE ARE KNOWN ISSUES. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10496518February 5, 2013
VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
I NOTICED AFTER PURCHASING THE CAR WITH 40,000 MILES ON IT AFTER OWING THE CAR FOR 5 MONTHS I PUT THE CAR IT REVERSE AND IT MADE A LOUD CLUNK WHEN IT WAS SHIFTING IN GEAR AND REPEATED THE SAME NOISE WHEN PUTTING THE CAR IN DRIVE. AFTER PUTTING THE CAR IN DRIVE THE CAR WOULD NOT ACCELERATE LIKE IT WAS NOT SHIFTING INTO GEAR. THE ISSUE HAS PERSISTED AND I HAD MY BROTHER, A LICENSED MECHANIC LOOK AT THE CAR AND HE DETERMINED THAT IT IS A SENSOR IN THE TRANSMISSION CAUSING THE PROBLEM. THE CAR WILL NOT SHIFT INTO GEAR UNTIL IT REACHES 45MPH UNTIL IT SHIFTS INTO GEAR THE RPMS WILL JUMP LIKE THE CAR IS STRAINING TO GET INTO GEAR. AFTER RESEARCHING THE PROBLEM I HAVE LEARNED THAT A LOT OF SUZUKI OWNERS HAVE THIS SAME PROBLEM. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10496374February 4, 2013
ENGINE, POWER TRAIN
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SUZUKI FORENZA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 15 MPH, THE VEHICLE ERRONEOUSLY SLIPPED OUT OF GEAR AND JOLTED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A PRIVATE MECHANIC WHERE IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE SPARK PLUGS, ENGINE HEAD GASKET, AND TRANS RANGE SENSOR NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER FOR THE SAME FAILURE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 45,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 45,500.
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10496193February 2, 2013
ENGINE, POWER TRAIN
STARTED CAR PUT IT INTO REVERSE TO BACK OUT, ALOUD "CLUNK" NOISE WAS MAID AND THE CAR HAD TROUBLE ACCELERATING. NOT IT OFTEN SLIPS INTO NEUTRAL WHILE DRIVING OR WILL ONLY ACCELERATE IN THIRD. *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10493737January 22, 2013
POWER TRAIN
I PURCHASED THIS CAR NEW IN 2/ 2009. I HAVE HAD TO HAVE IT INTO THE SHOP FOR REPAIRS OF CHECK ENGINE LIGHT AND TRANSMISSION, ULTIMATELY LEADING TO A TRANSMISSION REPLACEMENT ON 7/17/12. IT HAS BEEN IN THE SHOP 14 TIMES FROM 7/24/10 UNTIL THE PRESENT MOST OF WHICH INCLUDED THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT/AND OR THE TRANSMISSION FAILURE, STILL TODAY MY CAR IS IN THE SHOP BECAUSE IT WON'T REVERSE. THE ACCIDENT THAT OCCURRED ON 12/24/2012 COULD HAVE POSSIBLY BEEN AVOIDED HAD I BEEN ABLE TO REVERSE BECAUSE AS THE CAR APPROACHED ME I ATTEMPTED TO REVERSE WHEN IT FAILED. *TR
Crash:
Yes
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0
#10489600December 24, 2012
ENGINE, POWER TRAIN, VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
IN LESS THAN 2 MONTHS, I'VE HAD TO REPLACE SEVERAL PARTS OF MY CAR THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IS PART OF REGULAR SERVICE MAINTENANCE. THERMOSTAT, COOLANT HOSE, SPARK PLUGS (TWICE IN A YEAR), BRAKE LIGHTS AND HEADLIGHT BULBS (REPLACED TWICE IN A YEAR), TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE AND MOTOR MOUNTS BECAUSE OF THE TCM THAT MADE MY CAR JERK ALL THE TIME WHENEVER I ACCELERATE. EITHER AT A TRAFFIC LIGHT OR ON THE FREEWAY, MY CAR HESITATES TO ACCELERATE AND JERKS EVERY TIME I SHIFT GEARS. NOW, POSSIBLY THE TRANSMISSION RANGE SENSOR NEEDS TO BE REPLACED (I AM CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS WITH THIS ONE). I'M AFRAID IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, I'LL BE SPENDING MORE ON CAR REPAIRS THAN THE CAR IS WORTH AND IT'S ONLY A 2008! *TR
Crash:
No
Fire:
No
Injuries:
0
Deaths:
0

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